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#1 Lord Bastion

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 12:22 PM

Could be next year......
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Posted 17 July 2016 - 01:14 PM

Could be next year......

 

One in a lifetime/generation I believe we were told from the SNP prior to the last one.....when was that ?....Oh yeah....all of two years ago. Is this more lies from the SNP ? Mind ye they have to get permission from the UK government to go ahead....Hope Theresa tells wee shoogly heid to fuck off...... :D


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Posted 17 July 2016 - 01:22 PM

Was Theresa not just up in Edinburgh on Wednesday or Thursday there specifically telling Nicola there would be no 2nd Indie Ref.

 

Scotland vote only 23 months ago and we said NO.



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Posted 17 July 2016 - 01:25 PM

Was Theresa not just up in Edinburgh on Wednesday or Thursday there specifically telling Nicola there would be no 2nd Indie Ref.

 

Scotland vote only 23 months ago and we said NO.

 

aye she was up to see her....media seemed to think it was about that. Probably got a cup o' tea and a wee biscuit from a tartan shortbread tin.....

 

Wonder if Nicola's heid shoogles when she talks to folk in private.


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Posted 17 July 2016 - 03:01 PM

Politics is a "funny" old game. Just need to look at what has happened in the last couple of weeks.........never say never



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Posted 17 July 2016 - 03:26 PM

aye she was up to see her....media seemed to think it was about that. Probably got a cup o' tea and a wee biscuit from a tartan shortbread tin.....

 

Wonder if Nicola's heid shoogles when she talks to folk in private.

She does her best to control the shoogle in public, but in private it's shes like a chickenless heid. Ye think Wee eck is going to put the heid on ye in private. I thought it was supposed to be up to the Scottish people when another separation ref happens. The snp are a bunch of sickening, perochial, hypocrites



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Posted 17 July 2016 - 04:27 PM

She does her best to control the shoogle in public, but in private it's shes like a chickenless heid. Ye think Wee eck is going to put the heid on ye in private. I thought it was supposed to be up to the Scottish people when another separation ref happens. The snp are a bunch of sickening, perochial, hypocrites

 

Plans were afoot on 19th Sept, 2014, for a 2nd one......


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Posted 17 July 2016 - 05:17 PM

Plans were afoot on 19th Sept, 2014, for a 2nd one......

And yet they can themselves democrats. Like all fascists they are only democrats when they win a vote. When will the Scots wake up? 



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Posted 17 July 2016 - 08:30 PM

It's good that people are now challenging democracy. It is old fashioned. The younger generation are prepared to stand up for what they believe in.

Hopefully YES is the decision this time and we can look after ourselves exclusively instead of the breadcrumbs we are currently given.

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 08:31 PM

It's good that people are now challenging democracy. It is old fashioned. The younger generation are prepared to stand up for what they believe in.

Hopefully YES is the decision this time and we can look after ourselves exclusively instead of the breadcrumbs we are currently given.


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Posted 17 July 2016 - 08:35 PM

:dance: set us free :dance:

Aye, then all the NO voters who threatened to leave if the decision was YES can leave.

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 09:10 PM

It's good that people are now challenging democracy. It is old fashioned. The younger generation are prepared to stand up for what they believe in.
Hopefully YES is the decision this time and we can look after ourselves exclusively instead of the breadcrumbs we are currently given.


Democracy is old fashioned?...... you made a statement on the Turkey issue the other day I didn't understand either...... changing times!

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 09:34 PM

And yet they can themselves democrats. Like all fascists they are only democrats when they win a vote. When will the Scots wake up?

The SNP is a bit too far left of centre to be fascist.
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Posted 17 July 2016 - 09:41 PM

One in a lifetime/generation I believe we were told from the SNP prior to the last one.....when was that ?....Oh yeah....all of two years ago. Is this more lies from the SNP ? Mind ye they have to get permission from the UK government to go ahead....Hope Theresa tells wee shoogly heid to fuck off...... :D

SNP has been pro EU for a number of years, as has Scotland.  A cornerstone of the vote no thanks campaign was that we would not be in the EU if we voted yes, that could be seen as a lie no!! as we have seen politics wise we are living in unprecedented times with the leave vote, labour in turmoil and Cameron resigning.  Also Sturgeon was returned just a couple of months ago with a greater share of the Scottish vote due to a manifesto that included the possibility of a second referendum vote if Britain voted to leave but Scotland voted to say, that could be seen to be accepting the will of the people there methinks :-D :-D



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Posted 17 July 2016 - 10:36 PM

It is not in the SNP's best interests to be able to stay in the EU because being out of it is another trigger for another referendum.

After Brexit I thought independence would be inevitable but why don't the SNP concentrate on policy rather than this tiresome charade which is a smokescreen for substance.

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 11:19 PM

Democracy is old fashioned?...... you made a statement on the Turkey issue the other day I didn't understand either...... changing times!

What is the alternative to Democracy Jay?

Look up the Internet and you will find alternatives. I posted an article the other day from The Guardian.

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 11:21 PM

Look up the Internet and you will find alternatives. I posted an article the other day from The Guardian.


Didn't read it..... care to elaborate on your thoughts on Democracy?
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Posted 17 July 2016 - 11:22 PM

Didn't read it..... care to elaborate on your thoughts on Democracy?

Read the article and you'll find out alternatives to democracy.

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Posted 17 July 2016 - 11:27 PM

Read the article and you'll find out alternatives to democracy.


Break it down.......

Better yet, do you believe in the Democratic process, or go along with the alternative?..... if, you go with the alternative, I will read it, but if you are happy enough with Democracy....... then, no point......

So which is it?
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Posted 18 July 2016 - 05:19 AM

SNP has been pro EU for a number of years, as has Scotland.  A cornerstone of the vote no thanks campaign was that we would not be in the EU if we voted yes, that could be seen as a lie no!! as we have seen politics wise we are living in unprecedented times with the leave vote, labour in turmoil and Cameron resigning.  Also Sturgeon was returned just a couple of months ago with a greater share of the Scottish vote due to a manifesto that included the possibility of a second referendum vote if Britain voted to leave but Scotland voted to say, that could be seen to be accepting the will of the people there methinks :-D :-D

 

Do you seriously think that SNP supporters would have voted any other way even if she hadn't included that in the manifesto ? She could have included anything and they would still vote SNP if they believed there was ANY chance of a 2nd Indyref. And being honest, I for one certainly do not recall that being said prior to the election....not that it would have influenced me. The bottom line is......a helluva lot of people will NOT be happy until Scotland has complete independence from this union......................in order that they can apply to join another union......another union with which they have a far lower trading deal.


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