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#41 Hairy Scot

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 10:44 PM

So you think me saying that the state should not be subsidising workers wages or companies is socialism?

Not really up to speed on tbe tenets of your common and garden socialist ideology are you

 

My comment was not directed at your posts, I was referring to what I see as one of the shortcomings of socialism as practised by the Labour Party in the UK.

 

I agree that the state should not be subsiding workers' wages nor should it be subsidising companies. Those policies contributed greatly to the decline of the UK.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:30 PM

Labour at its finest.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk...n-2017-39775693
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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:32 PM

https://www.theguard...-double-by-2020
Here's an article from last year the day before the NMW was raised. Note what the CBI claim at the end of it. Also note that at that time there was an estimated 3.2 million workers on minimum wage. That figure will be lot bigger now. Note also that it's mostly women and older workers that are affected by the rise in the NMW.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:35 PM

Funny you mention the Greeks. Guess what country comes second to them when it comes to the decline in the value of wages over the last decade?
Go on guess.
I bet you can't.
Of course it doesn't suit everyone. It doesn't suit the people who pay shit wages. They are quite happy with the status quo.Why wouldn't they be, less pay more profit.


Why doesn't suit the Government to have more money to spend? I'm still waiting on that.....
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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:45 PM

Please, please have a listen to this...Diane Abbot today on the LBC radio station....seriously this is pure comedy gold. She is gibbering from the outset, hasn't a fucking clue...think Corbyn is bad ? Listen to this halfwit....typical Labour....

 

http://www.lbc.co.uk...er-policy-cost/


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:51 PM

more here....should be on 'Live at the Apollo'....Diane Abbot seriously owned.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk...n-2017-39775693


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:02 PM

Please, please have a listen to this...Diane Abbot today on the LBC radio station....seriously this is pure comedy gold. She is gibbering from the outset, hasn't a fucking clue...think Corbyn is bad ? Listen to this halfwit....typical Labour....
 
http://www.lbc.co.uk...er-policy-cost/


That woman has an agenda...... not sure what her end game is, but it isn't for British tradition or values.......

She is pure poison.

Brilliant piece of media :lol:
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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:07 PM

more here....should be on 'Live at the Apollo'....Diane Abbot seriously owned.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk...n-2017-39775693


Pure Gold...... :lol:
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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:13 PM

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Absolutely no contest...Abbott ever time.


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:13 PM

That woman has an agenda...... not sure what her end game is, but it isn't for British tradition or values.......

She is pure poison.

Brilliant piece of media :lol:

 

former partner of the leader I believe....


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#51 Lord Bastion

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:15 PM

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Absolutely no contest...Abbott ever time.


I loved Joan Rivers...... brutal as fuck!

But I'm gonna watch Abbot a few more times tonight.....
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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:15 PM

former partner of the leader I believe....


Really?
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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:24 PM

Really?

 

yep....

 

http://i.dailymail.c...split-wife.html

 

http://www.telegraph...ott-to-impress/


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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:33 PM

Why doesn't suit the Government to have more money to spend? I'm still waiting on that.....

Why don't the Government just raise it to £10 and be done with it?

Well the current rate is supposed to be raised to £9 ph by 2020. As previously stated those who pay the shit wages do not want any increases especially one so big. Many of those who pay shit wages also finance the Tory party i should think.

Why would the government announce reform of the self employed national insurance one day only to scrap it the next?

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:55 PM

Why don't the Government just raise it to £10 and be done with it?
Well the current rate is supposed to be raised to £9 ph by 2020. As previously stated those who pay the shit wages do not want any increases especially one so big. Many of those who pay shit wages also finance the Tory party i should think.
Why would the government announce reform of the self employed national insurance one day only to scrap it the next?


Because paying 9% on profit after tax is enough for folk who don't enjoy, holiday pay, sick pay etc.......

The rest is speculation.
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Posted 03 May 2017 - 03:16 AM

Because paying 9% on profit after tax is enough for folk who don't enjoy, holiday pay, sick pay etc.......

The rest is speculation.

Didn't they know that before the Chancellor announced the changes the day before to the nation during his budget speech. Did he have an epiphany during the night, or was he leaned on by backbenchers and "friends" of the Conservative party.

I don't mind speculation to be fair.

Oh and by the way the answer to the question i posed you was Great Britain but i was wrong. We are not second to Greece. Both countries have seen a 10.4% fall on the value in real terms of wages over the last decade. So we are akin to country who is bankrupt.

Go figure eh.

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Posted 03 May 2017 - 07:53 PM

Didn't they know that before the Chancellor announced the changes the day before to the nation during his budget speech. Did he have an epiphany during the night, or was he leaned on by backbenchers and "friends" of the Conservative party.

I don't mind speculation to be fair.

Oh and by the way the answer to the question i posed you was Great Britain but i was wrong. We are not second to Greece. Both countries have seen a 10.4% fall on the value in real terms of wages over the last decade. So we are akin to country who is bankrupt.

Go figure eh.

The Greek economy was never ready to join the Euro in 2000. It was only due to Goldman Sachs fiddling the books that let them qualify for membership of the Euro. They had artificial higher pay rates thanks to joining the Euro at a totally unrealistic conversion rate. This made the Greeks feel rich, which they weren't. So don't confuse a 10% fall in terms of wages in the UK with that of Greece where many did not pay their correct Income Tax. I'm not going to even research your figures which will probably be lies anyway. As Sam Clemens said. " There are lies, dam lies and statistics."

The last time I visited Greece was in 1997, and even then the price's they were charging in Tavernas ect was ridiculous. Ffs many of the Tavernas close to my Hotel didn't even have  flushing toilets but Greece wanted to be classified like a European Country like Britain and Germany, and charge accordingly. With regard to charging, a  similar situation existed in Malta 2003. That was my last visit there too. If countries want to charge Western European price's they have to provide Western European standards.



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Posted 04 May 2017 - 04:57 PM

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Posted 04 May 2017 - 05:03 PM

 

should have c & p my link along with that image Bastion....just so everyone knows that it aint Carol Vorderman..... :blush:


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 05:08 PM

should have c & p my link along with that image Bastion....just so everyone knows that it aint Carol Vorderman..... :blush:


If it goes over their head..... it goes over their head.....

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