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[FrugalNory]

Where is ForzaDundee these days? I remember a discussion on this board some time ago about the glorious future of Dundee as a fan owned enterprise with lessons of the past having been learned.

Well, em, the Dundee fans en mass see it a wee bit differently:

http://www.dee4life.... ... allot.html

Fan ownership my hairyhoop. Fresh from having an implicit rep on the last board, the Dee4Life cretins have sold the club up the river again. Presumably in the blind hope someone somewhere might actually want to give them more money for the now rotten stinking carcass of a once proud football club.

Start the countdown, the third and final administration is on it's way.

[craig]

Surely they can't be heading for another spell in administration. Would that be demotion to the third if it happened?

[Stewart]

i think there will be a few ahead of them if that is the case, it will be interesting to see how many 25 point dedections are handed out. As to Dundee should they go into Admin again, they are or will be finished

[johnarob]

can anyone tell me if there are any absolute rules to cover administration?

surely there must be a limit to how many times a business can be put into administration and even if it is only once should there be stronger punishments handed out form the football authorities?

[craig]

johnarob said:

can anyone tell me if there are any absolute rules to cover administration?

surely there must be a limit to how many times a business can be put into administration and even if it is only once should there be stronger punishments handed out form the football authorities?

Sending Livingstone down the divisions was a fairly severe punishment and will hopefully send out the right message to multiple offenders.

UEFA wont allow participation in Europe while in administration, which wont affect a lot of clubs, but is certainly a tough punishment to those clubs who rely on europe to balance the books. that rule is a tad harsh because you are removing a major finance stream from a club who are already struggling to pay the bills, but thats the rules.

[HulltoonClock]

Dundee have learned the lesson, there is much more chance of SPL teams going into admin as almost all of them are many millions in debt. How are they going to pay that when they are getting crowds of 3 or 4000. Live tv stops people going to games, and the crazy kick off times. Football needs to get back to basics, cheaper prices, no live tv and kick off at 3pm on Saturday's.

[craig]

HulltoonClock said:

Dundee have learned the lesson, there is much more chance of SPL teams going into admin as almost all of them are many millions in debt. How are they going to pay that when they are getting crowds of 3 or 4000. Live tv stops people going to games, and the crazy kick off times. Football needs to get back to basics, cheaper prices, no live tv and kick off at 3pm on Saturday's.

welcome to the forum hulltoonclock

[HulltoonClock]

Football isn't the same now, I liked standing and going at 3pm on Saturday's, dodging bottles and cans when the Old Firm visited and having a drink at the game. It really is becoming too sterile now, soon you won't be able to raise your voice at games.

[Grumpy Old Man]

I don't think you'd get too many disagreeing that they'd like to go back to the 3 o'clock kick off on a Saturday but I'm afraid that's not going to happen any time soon, not when the OF are playing away at least. TV has changed the face of football, maybe not for the better but I think the changes are here to stay.

And welcome to the forum Hulltoon

[jaybee1978]

HulltoonClock said:

Dundee have learned the lesson, there is much more chance of SPL teams going into admin as almost all of them are many millions in debt. How are they going to pay that when they are getting crowds of 3 or 4000. Live tv stops people going to games, and the crazy kick off times. Football needs to get back to basics, cheaper prices, no live tv and kick off at 3pm on Saturday's.

Welcome to the forum.

I agree that tv coverage has not helped our game. I've mentioned here before it has helped the rich clubs become richer and clubs in Scotland became almost reliant on tv money which didn't end well when Setanta went bust.

[HulltoonClock]

The Old Firm games will always be sell-outs if on tv or not but some of those other games on tv look hellish, Monday night games for example with three quarters of the ground empty, even early Saturday kick-offs. Tv will end up the biggest problem, not the solution.

[onemanclapping]

HulltoonClock said:

Football isn't the same now, I liked standing and going at 3pm on Saturday's, dodging bottles and cans when the Old Firm visited and having a drink at the game. It really is becoming too sterile now, soon you won't be able to raise your voice at games.

Welcome to the forum mate.

Agree 100% with the points you make, bring back the terracing, bring back the bevvy, reduce the prices and hunt the TV companies.

Time for the working class to reclaim the game!

[FrugalNory]

HulltoonClock, on 21 September 2011 - 06:05 PM, said:

The Old Firm games will always be sell-outs if on tv or not but some of those other games on tv look hellish, Monday night games for example with three quarters of the ground empty, even early Saturday kick-offs. Tv will end up the biggest problem, not the solution.

What is your thoughts on the ownership vote? Were you looking forward to potential fan ownership?

[HulltoonClock]

Never fancied fan ownership, most haven't got a pot to p**s in. Almost every club needs a single investor or maybe two or three of them. Mohammed El Fayed was seen in Dens Road Market today, this could be what us Dees have been waiting for.

[sheeptastic]

HulltoonClock, on 17 October 2011 - 07:33 PM, said:

Never fancied fan ownership, most haven't got a pot to p**s in. Almost every club needs a single investor or maybe two or three of them. Mohammed El Fayed was seen in Dens Road Market today, this could be what us Dees have been waiting for.

Maybe he was there to meet his bezzy mate Prince Phillip