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#1 johnarob

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 08:25 AM

Just watching the news just now and it has an interesting section on teaching young kids to drive

showing them from 11yr olds in a specially designed learning area and it's reckoned by the IAD and other driving bodies that this is the way to reduce joy riding and fatal road accidents.

these bodies want it introduced into the school syllabus, it happens in scandanavia.

seems a good idea

think hamilton race course offer the course
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#2 hoopz

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 09:26 AM

they should also have a school for the over 60's, or make them resit their test.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 09:52 AM

View Posthoopz, on 17 February 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

they should also have a school for the over 60's, or make them resit their test.
Speed kills, but so does going far too slow for the road.

I seen a learner car that was advertising lessons for 15 year olds. I just assumed it was a ploy to gain an advantage on other instructors
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 10:00 AM

people not indicating at roundabouts is my pet hate, and have seen a few oldies stopped dead on roundabouts waiting, dodgy stuff

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 10:04 AM

View Posthoopz, on 17 February 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

people not indicating at roundabouts is my pet hate, and have seen a few oldies stopped dead on roundabouts waiting, dodgy stuff

Off topic a bit, but I seen a guy slowly go over the top of a roundabout and go off the road. He then reversed back onto the roundabout causing everythig to come to a stand still. I turned around and went back thinking he must have had a heart attack or similar and he just drove off. He was maybe steaming.
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#6 Gusmeister

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 12:18 PM

Good way for joyriders to hone their skills I'd imagine.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:35 PM

Is 11 mature enough to be able to handle a car, even if only on a practice course?
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:41 PM

View Postcraig, on 17 February 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

Is 11 mature enough to be able to handle a car, even if only on a practice course?

lol, ye taking son/daughter for a spin?

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:46 PM

In theory it sounds a good idea but not socially. I doubt Scandinavia has the same level of car theft among it's youth. Teaching early is usually a great idea because they are far more experienced and understand road conditions better but you also teach the potential young criminals (of which there are plenty in Scotland) how to drive. I think it has to be a parental choice and could benefit many young drivers...........possibly a way to bring down their initial extortionate insurance premiums, often being forced to pay crazy amounts for their first old banger

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:47 PM

View Posthoopz, on 17 February 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:



lol, ye taking son/daughter for a spin?
My five year old has steered the car into the drive, but that did involve a few corrections from me. He isn't ready yet
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 01:58 PM

View Posthoopz, on 17 February 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

they should also have a school for the over 60's, or make them resit their test.

I've said similar a few times, but not just for over 60s. With the photo IDs, you have to get a new one every ten years now. You should have to pass a renewal test before you can do that.

On top of that, I'd stage the tests to get you driving in the first place. They do it with bikes, they should do it with cars as well. So until you get the basics you have to drive around in a car park. Once you get the basics, you get out on the road with your red L plates as you do now. Once you pass that, I'd make Pass Plus mandatory and you have to have green L plates until you've passed that.

It makes no sense that you can get out on the road without learning the basic controls. It also makes no sense that you can't drive on a motorway or really drive at night until after you pass your test, at which point you go out on your own.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:03 PM

View PostPsychoheart, on 17 February 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

I've said similar a few times, but not just for over 60s. With the photo IDs, you have to get a new one every ten years now. You should have to pass a renewal test before you can do that.

On top of that, I'd stage the tests to get you driving in the first place. They do it with bikes, they should do it with cars as well. So until you get the basics you have to drive around in a car park. Once you get the basics, you get out on the road with your red L plates as you do now. Once you pass that, I'd make Pass Plus mandatory and you have to have green L plates until you've passed that.

It makes no sense that you can get out on the road without learning the basic controls. It also makes no sense that you can't drive on a motorway or really drive at night until after you pass your test, at which point you go out on your own.

Sensible opinions, Psycho. I didn't realise they were issuing photo id's now for UK driving liscence. They have the same here in Brazil but it's only valid for 6-years at time and then you have to renew it meaning a medical, eye test and road safety awareness exam (multiple choice on a PC program) before they issue the new one.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:06 PM

View Posthoopz, on 17 February 2012 - 09:26 AM, said:

they should also have a school for the over 60's, or make them resit their test.

Cheeky young chap..show respect to your elders/superiors..or I will run you off the road with my Range Rover :razz:
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#14 hoopz

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:09 PM

View PostJHR, on 17 February 2012 - 06:06 PM, said:

Cheeky young chap..show respect to your elders/superiors..or I will run you off the road with my Range Rover :razz:

no offence mate lol, make it 70 then, i just plucked oot a random number , a guy aged 92 who stays in front of me still drives, takes him 10 mins to reverse out the garage onto my street and blocks me for ages, then hes offski at 5mph :(

range rover eh? nice , only a ford focus here

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:21 PM

My 17yr old is taking lessons now........£22 a pop.......feckin scandelous.

Not as shocking as the quote we got to insure her on mine or the missus motor.......OOOPFFFT..........
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:23 PM

View PostSheenyBob, on 17 February 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

My 17yr old is taking lessons now........£22 a pop.......feckin scandelous.

Not as shocking as the quote we got to insure her on mine or the missus motor.......OOOPFFFT..........

yep its a disgrace, pay road tax and the roads are fucked, had to change tyres 3 times in about 5/6 months.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:26 PM

View Posthoopz, on 17 February 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

yep its a disgrace, pay road tax and the roads are fucked, had to change tyres 3 times in about 5/6 months.

You must be like my missus...........finds every feckin pot hole there is and skelps it. Just got her a new motor last week and now waiting for the inevitable........
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:28 PM

lol, i done the nightshift in mine aswell, the roads i had to patrol were all fucked! its worse at night when its dark n pissing doon and they are filled wae water, canny see the bassas!

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

View PostSheenyBob, on 17 February 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

My 17yr old is taking lessons now........£22 a pop.......feckin scandelous.

Not as shocking as the quote we got to insure her on mine or the missus motor.......OOOPFFFT..........

Sheeny my lassie has been driving 5yrs and they wanted over a grand to add her to my insurance......robbery. She would only have used it a couple of times a year.

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:54 PM

View PostBundy, on 17 February 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

Sheeny my lassie has been driving 5yrs and they wanted over a grand to add her to my insurance......robbery. She would only have used it a couple of times a year.

1300 jimmys to get added to the missus insurance and i just got flat out refused by everyone for her to be added to mine....no deal they all said. I bought a new car today, get it next week....1400 jimmys for her to be added to that !

Im snookered...dunno what to do :think:

Edited by SheenyBob, 17 February 2012 - 06:54 PM.

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